Old radios and electrical security


The main problem with old electric appliances connected to mains is the no-conformity ot the internal wiring with actual security norms.

We can find some defaults, easy to eliminate. Of course, there is a little part of «authenticity» lost... But, if you were collecting old cars from the 1920's, would you use it with the brake system in original condition? I think not. We must accept minimal adjustment, or collecting silent radio sets!


You can enlarge some photographs to see details...


entrée de câble

Main electrical wire cord and entry into the frame:

The wire (often insulated with «linen»)is almost in bad state, and must be replaced in many cases! If any doubt about the plug, replace it too. If the cable entry is directly into the frame, wire must pass into by means of a insulating rubber ring. Check it, and replace if destroyed. Take care at the wire cannot be tear out of the frame...


connecteur secteur

Main entry with connector:

If the entry is built with a little connector, and if in good state, leave it in place... Just replace the wire, if needed.


protection transfo

Transformer protection:

The supply transformer of each appliance must be protected against surges and short cuts. Size of the fuse is depending of the transformer power, not easy to evaluate. It's possible to know the approximative power of a transformer by looking at the numbers of tubes present in the radio... With 4-5 tubes, power is about 50W, it gives a 250mA fuse (for 230V supply). A radio with more tubes will have a bigger transformer, place a 500mA fuse. Those fuses will be slow-blow action.


Internal wiring:

Insulation of mains conductors inside the set must be checked, and the main switch too. Take care than some old radios were fitted with an auto-transformer: primary and secundary windings are connected, and the mains voltage is connected to the secundaries! Those radios are as dangerous as «all-currents» models, see bottom of this page!


Insulation test:

Faults (no contact between frame and conductors) can be checked with an ohm-meter, but a real insulation test must be done with a special tester, generating a high-voltage for testing. One of those testers on the photograph... Tube radios are class 1 appliances (needing earth connexion), the insulation must resist at 2120 Volts. This will not concern «all-curents» radios (or supplied by means of auto-transformer); see bottom... No current can flow between mains wires and frame! Your security depends of it!

You can see the building of a insulation tester (with schematic) on this site. Only in French, sorry...


Earth / ground connexion:

Old radios need earth connexion, for the security and for the «antenna flow». For this use, there is a plug hole on the frame. It's often interesting to made this connexion by means of the new power cord. Personally I use 3 wires cable and a 2 pole+ earth connexion plug. The green/yellow wire is used to link the frame and the earth connexion into the plug.


Mains capacitors:

Particularity in old radios is the presence of capacitors between the frame and the mains wires. In most cases, those are defective! Use here only Y1 or Y2 class capacitors: only those caps can be used between earth and mains lines. The capacity is limited at 4,7nF and are designed to never come in short-cut in case of failure. Never use here ordinary caps, or X - X1/X2 «mains» caps. Those are designed to be use only between mains lines!

Sometimes, one mains line is used as antenna by means of a capacitor... Don't use this configuration (working very bad!) and remove all those caps...


Special case of «all-currents» radios

Some radios didn't have a supply transformer, and can be used with AC or DC mains. Those radios are very dangerous: one mains wire is directly connected to the frame! Electric shock danger! If you will absolutely use this kind of radios, do it only with an insulation transformer.

The supply principle of those radios is: rectifying and filtering the mains voltage, with a single phase valve. If mains voltage were DC (it exists in the old time), correct polarity must be find, by reversing the plug...(!)

One schematic...

alimentation TC

The black points are the frame connetions! Here, a dual valve is used. The second part of this tube is used to supply the electro-magnet of the loudspeaker (BeKr). The point called «+ V» is the high voltage supply for tubes. Heaters of tubes are serial connected directly to mains. if the radio is used on 230v, big resistors are serial mounted with the heaters. and those resistors are heating a lot!

Another system...

alimentation TC

On some radios, it was the power cord used on serial resistor! Here, to use this radio on 110V mains, a normal cable is used, and one part of the internal resistor is jumped. On 220V mains, a resistive cable must be used, and the jumper on the internal resistor must be removed.

To use this kind of set, leave it on 110V voltage selection, and supply it by means of a 230/110V security transformer. Those appliances are very dangerous, start repairing only if the working principle of the supply is well- understanded! It's more easy with the original schematic, or take it the marks. Always check the wiring before plug it! Be also careful with a set fitted with «auto-transformer»!


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